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So who needs Tiger, anyway?

'if the US PGA Tour bend over any further backwards, they'll be auditioning as contortionists'


Posted: 27 March 2007
by Bob Warters

Tiger Woods circus
Woods - seeds of a world circus

Watching the 'Tiger Show' from Lake Nona this week - a Tavistock Cup exhibition match between the celebrity residents of the Florida enclave and Woods' mates in the Isleworth community - it has turned golf into a circus act.

Having been outplayed by Henrik Stenson and Chris Di Marco, the ringmaster didn't hang around to greet his team-mates off the course and instead was helicoptered home to his pregnant wife, while the fawning Golf Channel picked up the pieces.

I think what we're seeing here are the first seeds of the Tiger Woods Tour, where the man responsible for the outrageous purses pro golfers are earning now, ships his close friends around the world glad-handing major sponsors and smashing course records in a birdie fest.

Already the US PGA Tour is discovering that they need Tiger Woods more than Tiger Woods needs them and have had to introduce a Fedex Cup series of invitation-only events at the end of the season to tempt their benefactor to make a handful of appearances.

Meanwhile in Europe even the world's biggest bank can't afford to have Tiger pick and choose when he wants to play their HSBC world matchplay tournament at Wentworth. The writing was on the wall when he lost prematurely before the tournament hardly got started.

It was like the performing white Tiger escaped!

Only the traditions of the Open Championship and Tiger's single-minded attempt to beat Jack Nicklaus's 18-major haul turns Tiger's head towards the UK.

So it begs the question: Who needs Tiger? Does professional golf...does golf itself?

It seems without Woods in the field, the major sponsors who support the US Tour are not interested in backing multi-million-dollar events where Phill Mickelson, Ernie Els and Vijay Singh.

Send in the clowns and the acrobats.

As for Woods, he's not bovvered - unless the fields are limited to say 60 invitations among the world's best, because, he says, it helps to keep play moving.

Tiger Woods circus
Greg Norman - wanted to start a world tour

Some years ago, Greg Norman threatened to set up a breakaway World Tour (on the lines of the top European Football Clubs wishing to organise their own Billonaires League at the expense of the minnows) which forced the various Tours in Japan, Asia, Australasia, Europe and the US to introduce the current World Golf Championship series.

But despite the WGC tournaments offering huge lucre to limited field events, exclusively at US venues, Tiger's still not wholly supportive. And if the Tour bend over any further backwards, they'll be auditioning as contortionists.

I'm convinced Tiger has an agenda, that's not altogether good for golf and golfers.

As a prelude to his likely move towards politics, he'll continue to establish a new major title mark - of at least 25 by the time he's 40 in nine years time. He will also organise more events similar to his own Target Tournament around the world acting in an ambassadorial role for his educational programme... in other words a Tiger Tour.

So who needs Tiger?

Certainly in Europe we have enough talent to survive without him with the likes of Stenson, Donald, Poulter, Garcia, Casey and Rose.

With only a limited support commitment from Tiger, the US PGA Tour is bound to suffer with the purses they can offer and the TV audiences they can attract and are destined to play a increasingly less dominant role in world golf.

And if they continue to get a battering in the Ryder Cup we might be looking for some other group of nations to give us a game.


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Can golf survive without Tiger Woods, who's become increasingly demanding with the authorities. ED
Posted: 27/03/2007 15:47

I think it can survive but will not have as large a following or nearly as much money being paid into it without him.

I'm not sure everything should be done to accommodate Tiger but he is pretty important to golf in the USA. In Europe we have plenty of players that can do the publicity thing but none of them will ever have the profile of Tiger, even in the UK.
Posted: 27/03/2007 16:25

There is absolutely no question that golf will survive without Tiger Woods. Of course it will!!

The fact that the US tour is kidding itself that it is important because it plays for a multi million dollar purse every week is a different matter.

If sponsers won't put money up without Tiger in the field I suggest players are being overpaid. In an interview some years ago Jack Nicklaus said golfers weren't hungry enough because you could make a very decent living by finishing in the pack. If you look at the greats of golf (and I include Tiger) they have all been winners. Others will come along in time, but while the current reward structure is in place where is the incentive for them to practice for that extra hour, or take that shot on over the lakein the final round?

To look at it the other way, how long will Nike continue to pay millions of dollars to a figure nobody sees since he doesn't want to play?
Posted: 27/03/2007 16:43

Totally disagree with you Bob. The man is the best player in the World (and possibly ever)!! Is it his fault that Nike and every other company want to pay him millions - NO! Just like all the footballers who earn £80K a week - is it their fault that the clubs are daft enough to pay that amount - NO!

You say that Tiger is becoming "increasingly demanding with the authorities" - how so? 95% of the tournaments that are played in the USA, Dubai, Far East etc have very large sponsors who will give their left arm to see Tiger there so they are actively going to him and virtually begging him to go - is this his fault???

I must admit that I am not Tiger's biggest fan BUT it is not his fault that he the best player in the world and people are prepared to throw money at him!

ps..I watched the Tavistock cup last night and thought it was FANTASTIC!!! We should have more!
Posted: 27/03/2007 17:04

he only plays 20 weeks a year anyway.
Posted: 27/03/2007 17:40

I like John Evans point and would take it a step further. Not only is it not Tigers fault but the blame can be firmly laid at our own feet. I don't personally know anyone that believes that golfers, footballers & pro sportspeople in general, are worth the fantastic sums they command. Yet how many people overcome their apathy or ignorance and actually take a stand on this. Write to the sponsors expressing your displeasure, boycott products/companies, but don't just whine that it's not fair. Do some maths, work out how much you could save in real terms if corporations weren't paying such massive sponsorship deals. Remember that they only pay these believing they can recover that and more from us. I enjoy watching a sport played well but never enough to want to give the participants millions of pounds!

The likes of Tiger are creatures of our own creation. The cult of celebrity, coupled with sums of money most of us can't really imagine, will always lead to this. Is Tiger getting too big for his boots? Not yet but, given your average 'Diva' track record, it's only a question of time.

I like to remind myself that Tiger just happens to be the best at putting a small ball in a hole. He hasn't cured a disease, saved a life, erradicated poverty, created world peace, invented a fantastic labour saving device or advanced human society in any other way. Admitted he is now in a position where he can give of his time and money to help others. But maybe if the likes of him weren't sucking so much out of the economy in the first place this wouldn't be necessary!
Posted: 27/03/2007 18:02

John Evans 5

If most of the ENGLAND football Team-and,particularly their English Coach- were only offered what they were worth by their clubs then the FA(stands for-you've guessed it!)would very easily be able to recoup all the money-and more-it totally wasted on a turnip and a swede AND engage a coach like Steve Coppell who was a brilliant and successful player with Man U AND was only paid a fraction of the much less talented players who are now ludicrously overrated and overpaid members of one of the world's worst and most boring teams!
Posted: 27/03/2007 18:54

The golf world needs someone like Tiger to keep the sport moving forwards and pushing the boundaries.

As he has improved other players have had to up their games as well to try and stay in touch so we have seen benefits in several aspects of the sport.
Posted: 27/03/2007 19:17

hey come on chaps they only had to give hime a decent date for his comp and no body would be any the wiser.blame the stiffs not tiger
Posted: 27/03/2007 19:58

I think tiger has brought alot of youngsters to the game of golf. You see kids now play alot more than there was before tiger came on the scene.
I think that good do you! He gives alot back to the game to, and gives alot to foundations.
These soccer players like example`michael owen` on the bench injured for over 12 months, and still get paid £80.000 + a week. I say they should be paid on their preformance on the day end of.....

There will be another tiger once he stops winning majors of course there will. just like every other past great players.
Posted: 27/03/2007 22:09

How has Tiger become increasingly demanding? What evidence is there that he is anymore more demanding than anyone else?

Hogan used to send his scrambled eggs back 2 or 3 times if they weren't right,is that what you mean?
Posted: 28/03/2007 07:53

One thing we could do without is some of his on-course habits. Playing before his partner when he is on the green even when he is not the furthest away so he can get the hole over and done with has been a criticism.

Also watching him last night on TV he doesnt always shout FORE when be smacks one into the crowd.

Both not good examples but very small blemishes on a generally superb professional and role model for the game.
Posted: 28/03/2007 08:44

He was advised by the tour and fellow professionals to play SECOND when nearer the hole so the crowds don't make a noise stampeeding to the next tee
Posted: 28/03/2007 09:14

Tiger is not a contracted player like Micheal Owen. He is an individual who has a right to play when he likes.
If the USPGA don't like it then do something about it. The reality is since the emergence of Tiger golf has become amazingly popular.
As a sport it is now considered "cool" in most quarters. That is partly down to the Tiger effect.
As for the money he earns we only have ourselves to blame. It is us who pay inflated prices for equipment because it's the one my favourite pro uses. We all know we do it, we all know it's a con but we don't care. We buy into the brand image, we take pride in it, it gives us confidence and we go back for more.

I actually think this is an opportunity for the european tour. The US tour is so dependant on Tiger turning up but the european tour is not. It should be expanding and taking advantage of golfs popularity and let the US tour deal with Tiger.
Posted: 28/03/2007 09:45

Totaly agree `pengwyn` Let the us tour deal with him. We have a few maybe upcoming tigers anyway such as luke donald and paul casey and a couple more to.
He cant play outside the us anyway and win can he. So realy he is dependant on the us tour.

Posted: 28/03/2007 10:32

Tiger Woods, He is simply the best player to play the game. I wasnt around to watch the other greats, I caught the end of Faldo when growing up. But this guy has taken the game to a whole new level.

I saw a comment on Golf Night last night, that he was 5 different flight paths for each club. The way he pulled out of the swing on his down swing is nothing short of awsome. Most of us carnt even stop a swing, if were sitting on the tee and just feeling uncoftable addressing the ball.

Yes Tiger picks and chooses his events, but he has every right to as he has earned it as world number 1. Most of the Top 20 do it. He is still part of the USPGA Tour and must fill his minimum quota of events like everyone else. Its just more often or not he wins it. So like the avergae tour player doesnt need play 3 weeks out 4 to help maintain his card for next year.

Sponsers want to throw money at him, this happens to all the top class sportsman in the US and even Europe. Look at Micheal Shuemacher. People will pay for these guys to endose their products and for appearance.

They have earned the right to do this, through hard work and dedication. It hasnt just landed on their lap. I think a lot of people forget about this.


Personally now, i think the in terms of player quality, the european tour has the better players, my only worry is that a lot of them are being seduced to the USA because of the huge sums of money over there and we will see less and less of them in europe, eg Donald, Stenson and Rose.

As long as Tiger is on the scene, Golf will have a WOW factor

Posted: 28/03/2007 10:45

Paul

I take it you are joking? Do you really need someone to list all his world wide victories,including the British Open last year without a driver and the WGC? I assume that was a laugh on your part,if not it was a hilarious post unintentionally,no offence intended.But come on,lets keep things in perspective.No one needs to 'deal with' Tiger,I find that an amazing notion tbh.And of course the European Tour needs Tiger,any tour needs the world number one to come over and play their tour.Can they survive without him,yes,do they also need him,yes,it simply isn't a case of one or the other.If it was he wouldn't have got paid 3 million for turning up in Dubai every year,which he has won incidently but he doesn't win outside the US does he? :).
Posted: 28/03/2007 10:53

Wormburner ;o) I was simply making a quote said by tiger a few weeks back i saw on sky. He did state he wasent the best player out there when he comes to play on the European tour. He might be the worlds no1. and for now he always will be. And for a long time.
Like the european players going to the states and play majors these days, Greens are different, fairways are different the air is lighter. Totalt new game. Our guys are maybe just coming to terms with that now and will not be long til one wins a big major out there again and again.
When tiger comes over i dont think and he has said himself that he wouldent think he would be up there in the top 3 every event. Coz he cant get used to the slower greens we have over hear. That was was coment realy. Maybe came out wrong.

But like we have all said, if BIG sponsors throw big money at you. What do you do. And yes he has earned it over and over again.
The us tour needs him, but the european tour is copeing without him, but it would be nice to see him over here more. Be good for us to. Coz no doubt he does bring in an extra few 1000s people in the crowd.
Posted: 28/03/2007 11:51

Tiger has the same right as everyone of us to pick where he works and how often he does it. If sponsors want to throw cash at him so he picks their tournament over anothers so be it.

If, as is being reported, Tiger is demanding more and more there comes a point where he is open to charges of prostituting himself. When that time comes it will only be so long before his credibility wanes.

Golf doesnt need Tiger, the US tour perceives it does, pre 97 it was going along very nicely on its own, indeed if Tiger hadnt come along many tour events would be more interesting with the likes of Mickelson, Singh, Furyk and many others battling it out, rather than the procession we see all to frequently.

I like Tiger he is as good as it gets but Golf(pro) is about competition.

IMHO if Tiger wants to be considered truly "Great" he needs to put more effort into giving back more to the game he has earned so much from. Whether that is supporting his tour and fellow professionals or encouraging grass roots development.

Lastly, just an off the wall idea, and bearing in mind his 'power' and association with Nike, How about him advocating a reduction in the distance the golf ball travels. The USPGA seem to be toothless in addressing the problem.
Posted: 28/03/2007 11:53

Last years open was the most boring golf I've ever seen in my life! sure Tiger played his own game & played it perfect ect but god it was dull !

Yes Tiger is the best player at the moment but best ever? mmm? thats another kettle of fish as we all have short memories and are diffent ages ect.

Nothing to do with the actual topic here but ;-)
Posted: 28/03/2007 12:01

I think Tiger will become the best player of all if he keeps his hunger for game, when Tiger brings his A game he is untouchable, he is on a different level to every golfer on Tour.

Sponsers might stop paying massive appearance fees, look what happened to the Matchplay at Wentworth, HSBC paid Tiger a fortune to come and play and he got knocked early doors.
HSBC have now pulled out of that event and are now backing the event in Singapore (or somewhere in the far east)

The European Tour is not as well paid as the US Tour and money talks, sad but very true.
Posted: 28/03/2007 13:01

Trev

The last thing on the world I would call Tiger is 'dull'.He hits shots NO ONE else is capable of hitting,such as a 3 wood on a par five this mornign.The commentators said medium iron into position.285 out,in the semi rough,uneven lie,behind a tree.

The ball ended up 20ft from the pin.Dull?! Er,no,just awesome.I am regularly amazed on forums when posters describe Tiger as dull.I must live in a paralell universe.
Posted: 28/03/2007 22:05

I was only talking about last years open, an iron from every tee ect.

Dull as ditch water golf! clever? .. yes but dull, it's like you or me thinking lets play it safe on this par 4 and hitting two 5 irons to the green, then the next hole............ then doing it for another 4 rounds, it's DULL golf!

Yes Tiger is awsome, yes he's great but the game is so different now to what it used to be that I still don't think he's a patch on the old guys in their prime, ball development ect larger sweet spots longer shafts new materials ect have all but killed shots that were common place and really took skill to learn and master.

Personally people talk like Tiger Woods IS golf, he's not, but lets faced it he's worshiped by some people ect... but to me? well all I see is a spoiled brat that was groomed to be nothing less than a golfing great, chances are you could take a 1 legged child give them the same chances coatching, support ect and they would be playing on tour too.
Posted: 28/03/2007 23:33

Well it takes all sorts.But I can watch Tiger till the cows come home,its utterly absorbing golf,at any moment he will produce some genius and you describe the golf he plays as if its easy,well if its that easy to hit drive,5 iron,putt then he wouldn't win all the time! You are entitled to your opinion though,fair enough
Posted: 28/03/2007 23:41

Trev, I understand your point but completely disagree!!

For Tiger to have the 'balls', mental strength, and planning to hit an iron of virtually every tee, and still win a major just goes to me how good he really is.

What it demonstrated to most people was that he 'could' of hit 400 yards drivers but instead had the planning, patience and game to still kick everyones backside using only irons .

Personally, I think it was one of the greatest displays of golf I have ever seen.

Just my 2p's worth
Posted: 29/03/2007 09:02

Yesterday he managed to stop his downswing half way down because of a wasp.he didn't lose any balance despite the fcat it was going to be a 200yrd 6 iron,his arms just stopped.It was nothing short of incredible and left the commentators stunned.Thats what you get with Tiger,utter genius every time he plays
Posted: 29/03/2007 11:51

Mutly

IMHO if Tiger wants to be considered truly "Great" he needs to put more effort into giving back more to the game he has earned so much from. Whether that is supporting his tour and fellow professionals or encouraging grass roots development.

Have you heard of the Tiger Woods Foundation?
Posted: 03/04/2007 13:15

Golf, like any other sport will certainly survive. Tiger didn't make golf. Golf allowed Tiger to express a unique talent that drew millions of fans to it. He's great for the game because he has become a new generation benchmark and made golf cool to many younger athletes who may not have considered golf before. Does he get special treatment because he's number 1? Absolutely, but so does every other number 1 in their respective sports. Basketball didn't die after Jordon, Hockey didn't disappear after Gretsky. Golf will surely endure after Tiger, probably at a higher level because of him.
Posted: 03/04/2007 16:09

Ignited

I have heard of Tiger woods foundation and he is to be admired however from my limited knowledge it is much more to do with giving under privileged kids an education/opportunity than giving back to the game. It would also seem to be exclusively aimed at local kids despite earning so much of his wealth in the wider world.

As I said before good luck to him I have no axe to grind, I just dont buy into the "Golf needs him" line of thinking. What would happen if he retired tommorrow, there would still be 4 majors and PGA tour events almost every week of the year probably with smaller purses.


Posted: 03/04/2007 17:37

Tiger is here, lets enjoy watching everyone else pick up their game to catch him, cant be bad viewing.
Posted: 03/04/2007 23:13

re the square headed driver.isnt it the same with all clubs.3 months.most dont last that long.
Posted: 04/04/2007 10:39

Old news is the politest way i could describe the article above.

See here
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/in_depth/2001/us_masters/1269517.stm
Posted: 05/04/2007 13:53

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