is custom build worth it?

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17/09/2010 at 19:50
Is it worth looking at kzg or wishon etc as opposed to regular brands that are custom fitted? Does the ability to choose headweights and styles hold any advantage over the likes of a properly fitted mizuno?
17/09/2010 at 20:19

An old fart who we see playing on his own alot, went to Graham Tonge and was custom built.

It knocked so many shots off his game, and he would seriously kick ass...

17/09/2010 at 20:20
NO NO No...I did this a few years ago and initially felt like a pro with my custom fitted clubs..Wizards I think they were. But after a while they get odd looks from your friends.

But the reality is top of the range Callaway irons are the answer. Go for the tour version if you under 9 handicap.

17/09/2010 at 21:08
Yes, Yes, Yes.....Don't be another sheep GG....
17/09/2010 at 21:14
giggity wrote (see)
Is it worth looking at kzg or wishon etc as opposed to regular brands that are custom fitted? Does the ability to choose headweights and styles hold any advantage over the likes of a properly fitted mizuno?

In a word - no - custom fitting is over-rated.
17/09/2010 at 21:58
I wouldn't touch callaway stuff with a poo covered stick, don't know why really just never seen anything that really appeals.
So probably best sticking to mainstream brands?
17/09/2010 at 22:12
Are these component brands a bit ropey then. Spoke to a dealer who said kzg and miura were practically identical feel wise but because no one has heard of kzg they are half the price!
18/09/2010 at 07:31

KZG, Wishon etc etc are good quality. But no better or worse than Ping, Mizuno etc.

Tom Wishon is a guy who is genuinely passionate about golf and about the values of getting fitted for your clubs. Which is important. That's why he (and other brands like KZG) only sell their products through pro-fitters.

The likes of Ping and Mizuno fitting centres do a good service in checking that you have the right flex shaft for your swing speed (how many of us just pick 'stiff' 'cos that's what our mates play....?) and getting the lie and club length right. Having switched to 2deg upright and 1 inch over standard length, I can tell you that such things make a huge difference to ball striking consistency.

Whether it's worth the extra to go to a fitting centre who do the extra bit: MOI matching etc, it's the law of diminshing returns. How many of us hackers are going to notice if one club is 3 grams off? And of course Wishon and KZG won't bring as much in resale price.

But DO get your clubs correctly fitted for flex, lie and length.

18/09/2010 at 07:44
My clubs are fitted , I was wondering if going the extra mile with built for me component clubs would.open any new and improved options.
18/09/2010 at 09:22
You'll not get anything extra from components, but you may save a few quid, and you may get a better fitting service from a good specialist fitter than you get at a lot of the so-called fittings at clubs and shops. Downside is as most of the component brands aren't well known and thus lack appeal, so resale values are poor should you wish to move the clubs on.
18/09/2010 at 09:44

I am not sure with KZG, but Miura look the nuts, kinda Golf Porn

I rate fitting, but as TR says: "DO get your clubs correctly fitted for flex, lie and length."

I had the Lie changed on my Clubs, worked a treat, but when I renew, I will be getting the works, as feel Length could be an issue also.

Its all in the way they feel, so get booked in with Mizuno, Ping or Callaway and get fitted, if you go to the Manufacturer, you will be able to hit a few balls and be able to feel and see whether its making a difference before you buy

18/09/2010 at 09:50
Duck Hook wrote (see)
NO NO No...I did this a few years ago and initially felt like a pro with my custom fitted clubs..Wizards I think they were. But after a while they get odd looks from your friends. But the reality is top of the range Mizuno irons are the answer. 
FYP.
18/09/2010 at 12:45

echo the sentiments with regard to getting your static fit right. Lenght and loft are going to improve your accuracy. Shafts are likely to improve your ball flight.

If you want custom fitted then the Mizuno centres are as good a choice as any. But try to pick one where you can actually see the ball flight, rather than rely on a Vector monitor. The trackman or similar doppler radar systems will give you a much more accurate indictation of flight.

18/09/2010 at 18:59

15-20 years ago i bought my Ping Zing2s they were measured and fitted to me - black dot std .... My golf changed I went from 12 to 5 rapidly and was shooting low scores. So simple works now i use MP52s and my scoring is dreadful - but that's not the clubs, I love the technical stuff but honestly speaking I have not made a full benefit of it.

Truth is a simple loft lie and shaft flex works, dopplar radars are cool but reality, is it wont make you hit it better....

18/09/2010 at 22:21
Thanks, I know getting fit is a good idea but I was interested in whether the component head quality was of a higher standard, I had read that kzg use the same foundry as miura but then shipped out for finishing - wouldnt this mean the kzg were half price miuras? Are the other such brands along similar lines? I am not interested in resale values if they are the right clubs as they will be in the bag for many years.
21/09/2010 at 15:46

I think it's personal preference as regards brands etc but I would recommend getting fit. As with anything else, if it's done properly it's worth it; either go to one of the recognised brands fitting centres, e.g Callaway, Titleist or Mizuno if you have a preference for their equipment or an independent specialist like Precision golf they supply Miura as well)where you can try gear from several of the manufacturers.

If it's carried out professionaly you should notice the difference and your game will improve.

23/09/2010 at 11:23
giggity wrote (see)
Thanks, I know getting fit is a good idea but I was interested in whether the component head quality was of a higher standard, I had read that kzg use the same foundry as miura but then shipped out for finishing - wouldnt this mean the kzg were half price miuras? Are the other such brands along similar lines? I am not interested in resale values if they are the right clubs as they will be in the bag for many years.

Where are you in the UK. IronWRX is a member on here, he is a club fitter, chat to him for some feedback on what to do. He is very local to me, always have him doing little tasks for me, re-gripping or Club repairs.
23/09/2010 at 15:11

Giggity,

Getting fitted ala Mizuno is of benefit to everyone imo. But going to the next extreme of fitting would only benefit those who are playing decent in the first place.

If you are not single figures/approaching cat 1 then I guess the money would be better spent on lessons.

Resale value would be terrible though so bare that in mind

At least with Muira you get golf porn and because they are more recognised you would get a better resale.

Tonge is well respected. But I know of 2 people who went to him expecting miracles and after a honeymoon period where things where great they came to the conclusion that it was a waste of money. No surprise to hear that both of these guys where mid teen hcap golfers who didn't practice and wanted the improvement without the commitment of practice.

23/09/2010 at 17:48
giggity wrote (see)
Thanks, I know getting fit is a good idea but I was interested in whether the component head quality was of a higher standard,

In what respect "better"?

It's only club amateurs on forums you hear talking about all this sort of nonsense, just take a look at the equipment used by the world's top 10, 50, 100 etc and a strange pattern will emerge:

Titleist, Ping, Taylor Made, Callaway, Mizuno, Srixon, Nike, Wilson, etc etc etc etc.  

DAM
23/09/2010 at 19:29

Surely though the worlds top 10, 50, 100 etc have their clubs built to the highest standards?

I doubt your suggesting that a professional golfers clubs are built down the same productions lines as those that appear in American Golf?

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