Go on Bob, pick on me...but erm, excuse me for asking, how come I get the blame?! Somefink up there, me thinks.

Shorts, definitely a no no for me, my legs make sparrows look obese!

When tanned, that's a different story - but for milk bottle white Englishmen, nah, keep the slacks on!

Not sure how this thread degenerated, but that's all part of the fun!

Imagine writing that in a mag Bob!!

Just when we're having fun - in comes the Colonel.
That's the trouble with golf - too damn serious!

Anyway - it was me and not Sue wot is the degenerate.

Oh - and Bob just check out the number of links to threads.

Take your point, Alan. The boys - and the girls - at the bar obviously like a bit of smut, so I'll leave you to it in future and sit back and count the responses.
Now what about collarless tops for the girls (banned at some clubs), and tailored jeans/slacks (also frowned upon)? Where will it end? The French are not too clever at golf but on the whole -the women especially look very chic - they can give us lessons on how to dress on the course, though not too sure about the sweater slung over the shoulder and knotted at the chest, monsieur!

As I said earlier - St.Andrews aren't too fussy about what you wear. You can spot people playing around most of the St.Andrews courses in jeans and trainers if you look out for it. Reckon that's maybe how it should be. Most people still dress up smartly.

Didn't see anyone playing in the altogether though I'm afraid Alan, and the east scottish coast could be a bit chilly.

I say yes to shorts, yes to collarless tops, and yes to short skirts.

I like wearing shorts, and even though I say so myself, I have quite good legs! Tanned, hairy and muscular (no, not fat!).

I like to feel a bit of a breeze through the Trossachs!

As the originator of this message I'd like to thank you all for giving your opinions on shorts. The 'T' shirt debate is equally debatable but I believe David Duval got a ticking off sor trying to branch out with his own range of collarless efforts. He went at least five months wearing a 'T' shirt until he was told not to. It's again another example of how backward the governing body of golf is. If they ordained that nobody could go on the golf clubs with advertising on any part of their clothing there would be an up roar. Me - I'd advocate the wearing of 'T' shirts. Why not?

I prefer an open neck shirt anyway. I find T shirts a bit restrictive round the neck. Must be my thick neck.

I think Duval looked pretty smart in his outlawed 't-shirt'. It was verging on a polo neck anyway.

We have a new policy at our club starting with the takeover of Burhill Estates - wait for it - absolutley no dress code!

We might as well advertise for tramps to come and play - it is a sad day when money for greens fees overtakes the simple traditions of being dressed properly for our sport!

I don't want to sound too snobbish - I have always preferred playing at a public golf course, we do get the odd muppet who likes to dress in jeans, sandals and not wear a t-shirt. Previously, we just asked them to either buy a t-shirt or play on the short course.

However, now, they can turn up wearing just a pair of shorts and flip flops! Am I getting old at 31, or does anyone agree with me that we should have some form of dress code for the game.

There is an addendum to this - if you are a "Club" member at Wycombe, the Captain "expects the members to dress appropriately" - and that does not mean long socks with tailored shorts either!

What he means is look smart and a bit like a golfer, not a Millwall FC fan!

Thoughts please!

I'd rather see tailored shorts and polo shirt, over jeans and a bare chest any day.

In my opinion jeans/flipflop/trainers/etc. is not suitable for attire an 18-hole golf course. Players should dress smartly and that's that. If people turn up in that kind of gear they should be turned away and directed to the nearest sea-front crazy golf.

Surely the number of people that actually turn up looking scruffy is pretty small. Most people turn up to play golf dressed smartly, even on municipal courses. If the odd few don't, I still think they should be able to play.

I basically sgree with Suzanne. Tailored shorts are ok, and I think proper shoes should be required.

As for a bare chest, that's got to be a definite no-no.

I'm not to sure about T-shirts. Football t-shirts, definitely not, smart t-shirts - I dunno.

If people look reasonably smart I.E not bare chested and dressed in flip flops, combat trousers and an army vest, then I have no problem what they wear.

When people look scruffy, it upsets the members who actually make an effort - I mena, you should have some respect for the game, just a little.

Often, and not wanting to be too sweeping, the people who turn up dressed like scruffs have not the first clue about etiquette, rules, reparing pitchmarks, replacing divots and raking bunkers...if they do, I would be surprised.

What the majority of people need who are just beginning the game is to have a few lessons from a pro who can advise them of all the various aspects involved, one of them being common sense dress sense!

If you just let loose all these scruffy urchins on the course, any public course, then standards will slip and members, who pay much money throughout the year in subs, greenfees and behind the bar, willl get pissed off and move elsewhere.

So to me, it doesn't make perfect business sense to fill up tee times with just any old Tom, Dick or Harriet - the companies operating these kind of venues should look after their regulars, otherwise, they wil be losing much additional revenue from the members - who in turn invite teams to play on the course in club matches, have their own society days and generally use the club as a social club too!

Invite the riff raff scruffy buggers in and it will all go pear shaped pretty quickly.

There - got that off my chest -

If it continues, I for one will be moving to a private club - much against my socialist background wishes!

Oh, Alex - while there were just a "few" scruffs turning up before, they seem to be out in their droves right now - a bit like a virus, it spreads quickly when news gets out that you can play without t shirts etc!

Now we are becoming inundated with the pillocks!
I wish they would go back to the footie and leave us to enjoy our sport - we don't need them - bit like Mountain Bikers really!

??? Is that really how viruses spread Martin?

If I won the lottery I would buy a golf club and have no dress code. I'd love to play in jeans and a T shirt but I can't because that's the rule. I'm not slob but I have to admit I don't like slobs on teh course so you have to draw the line somewhere. AT my course though there is a dress code preventing the wearing of football shirts or any other clothing with sporting logos. But we have a few nutters who are covered top to bottom in disgusting tats. Chelsea...Arsenal...mam..dad...love ...hate. Should tell these people to cover up or buggar off?

Collar and tie old boy, collar and tie. The day we let 'em get away with these demn open neck shirts was the death knell of proper golfing attire.