My wife played a shot from a Bunker and on the follow through hit the ball with club head. I said it was a double hit and she said that as there was a cushion of sand between the club head and the sand she had only made contact once and therefore not a double hit. Please can any one clear this up before she buries the clubhead in my head.
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 The way it reads it was a double hit and a penalty; cushion of sand or no she still propelled the ball twice - wouldn't like to be in your shoes though! Perhaps better not to have noticed on matrimonial grounds if it was just a friendly knock!
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She was so proud of getting it out and next to the hole, maybe I will let it slid for now.
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 14-4/3 Player Hits Behind Ball and Then Strikes Moving Ball Q. In playing a chip shot, a player’s club strikes the ground several inches behind the ball and does not come into contact with the ball. However, the ground is struck with enough force to cause the ball to move. The player’s club continues and strikes the ball while it is moving. What is the ruling? A. The player must count his stroke and add a penalty stroke under Rule 14-4. Even though the club itself did not initially strike the ball, the ball was put into motion due to the stroke; therefore, Rule 14-4 applies. (New) . . 14-1/5 Moving Ball Lying Against Fence by Striking Other Side of Fence Q. A player’s ball lies against a board at the base of an out of bounds fence. He swings a club from the out of bounds side of the fence against the board, i.e., swings at the ball with the board intervening between the club and the ball. The stroke moves the board which causes the ball to move away from the fence. Is such a stroke permissible? A. Yes. The player fairly struck at the ball even though other material intervened between the club and the ball. The Definition of “Out of Bounds” allows a player to “stand out of bounds to play a ball lying within bounds.”
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 She is your wife, so therefore, even if she is wrong, she is still right 
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 You only really need to show her the rule or leave the book open when your not there.  14-4. Striking the Ball More Than Once If a player's club strikes the ball more than once in the course of a [i]stroke[/i], the player must count the [i]stroke[/i] and add a [i]penalty stroke[/i], making two [i]strokes[/i] in all.
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Didn't the situation described here happen in the final round of US Open? I think it was the one Hale Irwin won many years ago. If we think about things, often the club does not make contact with the ball during a stroke. As well as in a bunker where sand is between the two, often grass will be between club and ball in deep rough. Sometimes a twig or leaves will intervene.
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Ah yes! but she claims she only made one stroke and the club head only hit the ball once. I am on a no winner.
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Ask her if when she plays a ball out of a bunker normally and the clubface has not hit the ball because of the cushion of sand, does she maintain that she has not made a stroke. Another way of looking at it is that a 'stroke' does not necessarily involve striking the ball at all. So when she made a stroke and only hit the sand, that was one stroke. She then gets a penalty for touching a moving ball. It's not correct but it might persuade her 
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To Mrs. HonestGolfer Watch that hubby of yours. Next he'll be telling you the ones where you don't make any contact at all count. 
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 To Mrs. HonestGolfer Watch that hubby of yours. Next he'll be telling you the ones where you don't make any contact at all count.
I thought that they do count...if you make an effort to play the ball........even if you miss it and the ball stays still it counts as a shot. I dont know the rule number and am simply going off what i have been told, perhaps someone can clarify? off course i dont do competitions and if a friend swung and missed everything, i thing you would be quite cruel to slap them with an extra stroke along with their embarressment! Paul
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Paul A complete miss or an 'airshot' counts. Failed humour on my part clearly. 
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I don't envy you Honestgolfer. me and my wife only played two rounds together before going through a golf divorce and never playing again. A friend of hers blamed golf for two of her three real-life divorces. It's only a game, but it brings out the worst in some people (my wife, not me).
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Yes, Paul - where there's an intention to make a stroke at the ball - to hit it - the shot counts whether contact is made or not. So, a practice swish two feet above the ball is not a shot while an attempt to hit the ball which goes badly wrong and is two feet above the ball is a shot. And, just for fun, someone can contribute the situation when someone does hit the ball but it's not a shot.
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thans for clarifing...sorry Dec, i still don't get the joke (but i am fairly young, and with tthe standards in schools these days, therefore fairly thick! - so dont feel bad, its probably me, not you!!  )
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Paul They obviously didn't teach you to spell 'wit' at school either. 
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DH Look at Paul's profile. His surname is Hewitt - and perhaps his middle name is Thomas.
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DC Failed humour on my part clearly.
I noticed it read as 'Paul the wit'
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Touche
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