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well nick what ive done its really simple really. its just a set up change and using a shorter swing, i think its all in the 9-3 encylopidia.

im having when i look at it about 75% weight on the left foot, and its like my left hip and left shoulder are in line with the instep of my right foot.

my ball flight is a rising one at the moment depending on where i have the ball postion, i did notice my stance was a little to wide and ill try and fix that tommorow.

punchs have become easy to play like this if i have the ball off my back foot.

The strange thing is i thought, i wouldnt be able to drive as well like this, but in truth i drove amazingly well today. At one point i was hitting high fades with it then i soon realised i wasnt getting wide enough with the driver.

i still have alot to fix, im still having problems with dipping, need to shorten the swing alot more, and i was having a bit too much sway on the back swing.

Uk is defintly right though , where intially i thougth there was no weight transfer there defintly is. it just seems i find it easier to get my weight through at impact this way, still im strving to make sure my hips are open just before impact and at the moment they only open just after.   

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disagree with no weight shift no power argument , look at the stack and tilt tour players are they hitting significantly shorter that there weight shifting peers , agreed the very big hitters have huge lateral movements , but who can swing like that and keep it under control  

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they still shift their weight - guarantee you
Edited: 13/10/08 23:39
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uk I can hit perfectly good long shots with my right foot on tiptoe from start to finish , I gave away my leadbetter video's some time ago best move i ever made

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wILL HAVE TO PONDER ON ALL THIS

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YOU shift your weight onto your tiptoe - its still a weight shift. 

 the point of the ball is to let you feel the weight shift as it is unstable you will be very aware in the weight transfer - its got nothing to do with leadbetter

if you dont shift your weight go ahead and hit of 1 leg

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I think that weight shift is a stupid thing to focus on. If you swing your club to the left, your weight shifts to the left and vice versa - without you doing anything. A very good way to confuse yourself.

Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2FnfZlRwak

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Guess I not going to convince you uk but hears my final take on the weight shift debate. If you have ever swung the leadbetter way you will notice a big emphasis on weight shift, you stack up behind the ball with weight on right foot for backswing, then transferee weight from right to left  then stack up infront of the ball weight on left at finish.

the whole point of this "and this applies to throwing objects also" is that it gives you a wider swing arc, wider swing arc  longer effective swing radius, longer radius means more clubhead speed equates to more distance. It has nothing to do with utilising big muscle power, that is a total misconception. But in the same way that you get more distance from increased shaft length you also get increased inconsistency and decrease in precision.

with no weight shift, left stay left approach "or for sake of argument little weight shift" your swing radius will be shorter but with more  consistency and you'll hit the ball with a more descending blow. I found that I was able to make a better contact with the ball and was able to concentrate on getting power from other areas like better hip turn and increased lag.

Edited: 14/10/08 11:00
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Wow just watched that vid Dave sums it up perfectly and i qoute

 "Stay on my post back and through i can really really whack the golf ball ......wow"

the post being the left leg , left stay left , try it

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i know alot of poeple on this forum hate stack and tilt, and i dont understand the reason for it.

because most poeple will also say its just about getting that clubface back square.

S&T is massive in the US, so much so lots of the top teachers will teach it if thats what you want.

i dont know too much about it tbh.

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S&T

Or sometimes referred to as "Hook & Smother" (not my moniker for it I may add).

For every US advocate there's also a US denegrator (both professional and "Average Joe"). When I watched The Open this year I paid particular attention to the swings of the S&T guys (notably Aaron Badderly & Mike Weir) and I did notice them pull/pull-hook a fair proportion of their shots - especially when trying to keep the ball low and into the wind.

Obviously Badderly's misses were left and Weir's misses were right. No doubt pure coincidence, but...

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The biggest problem I see about "weight shift" (and I've got plenty to shift) is that folk focus on the "weight shift" - whether that be to add some or to restrict some weight shift.

All good instructors refer to the "throwing of a ball" to illustrate the dynamics of this trait (even Hogan) but focusing on "weight shift" is a bit like being presented with a naked photo of Angelina Jolie and then saying: "Oooooh, she has lovely elbows!" --- i.e. missing the main focus/point!

The "weight shift" should be the by-product of a good technique. One of the most classic mistakes which impedes natural (or instinctive "weight shift" if you like) is the straightening of the back leg during the backswing. Not only does this alter your spine angle and height in relation to the ball it also stifles "weight shift".

Poor "weight shift" can often be attributed to some other underlying issue. The "weight shift" itself is rarely the cause.

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My view on weight shift is this:

1. Start with weight more on right leg than left (ratio depending on club, more on right for longer club)

2. Swing around solid right leg (solid - as in keep knee bend and original position as per address)

3. Turn around left leg going forward - weight should be more on left leg at impact - for a normal full shot off a flat terrain it should never be on the right leg.

Big difference between a weight shift and a sway.

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Chris Curry wrote (see)
 
 

All good instructors refer to the "throwing of a ball" to illustrate the dynamics of this trait (even Hogan) but focusing on "weight shift" is a bit like being presented with a naked photo of Angelina Jolie and then saying: "Oooooh, she has lovely elbows!" --- i.e. missing the main focus/point!


I've never noticed her elbows before, mate. I've always been focusing on her delicious wrists.

Was there a golf point there somewhere??
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disagree with no weight shift no power argument , look at the stack and tilt tour players are they hitting significantly shorter that there weight shifting peers , agreed the very big hitters have huge lateral movements , but who can swing like that and keep it under control  

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I didn't post that ??? wasn't even online at 15:08 

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Thats weird. Are you sure you aren't skitzophrenic and have dual personality?
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Robert Lee 4 wrote (see)

I didn't post that ??? wasn't even online at 15:08 


It's a copy of the same post from the previous night, see above.....

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