 Yes - you do hit from a matt into a net. They use ProV1 balls. I must admit that I beleive that the guys got the specs of my clubs right as since having them built (elsewhere) am hitting the ball better thn ever. Just don't buy from them IMO.
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 geldap First off it was good to read that Precision Golf managed to establish the right specification for your irons and that your felt the fitting service was good value for the time/result achieved. I also felt that to be the case and have made recommendations to friends as a result and have to say that the "Trackman" is a great bit of kit too. However I think within your quoted "£450 for supplying and fitting a set of shafts/grips" you have perhaps neglected to account for the SST Puring aspect that Precision Golf apply to the clubs as well. The element of the club make up price that accounts for is (approx) £25 per individual club. Precision include that in all their quotes for the work to be done/clubs/shafts supplied but if you want to it is a cost (and benefit) that you could take out of the equation. Therefore if you had taken that amount out of the quote then I think you would find that the Precision Golf prices would have been very close to your own (un-named) fitter/supplier. As for the time it would have taken for your clubs to be made up by Precision (up to 2 weeks I think you said) that could probably be more accounted for availability/stock of the shafts/grips you needed than an indication of the their ability to turn a job around and keep someone happy. Also I know from personal experience that if they have a shaft in stock the turn around is very quick. For example a few weeks ago I dropped off my Callaway FT-5 Tour driver to be re-shafted with a Ozik Matrix shaft at around 4.50pm on a Saturday just before they closed. I had a call the next wokring day (Monday bank holiday weekend) to say that it was ready to go. Also I was interested to understand your breakdown of the cost of your Muira irons (good choice by the way!!) that now have. You said that your own club fitter charged you £220 and that the total outlay was £770 for the irons. So that means you managed to buy the Muira heads for £550 I presume? If that is the case I'd be interested to know where you bought them and if they were brand new clubs please, especially given how tricky it is to buy just the heads only in the Muira range. Going back to the SST Puring point I thought you might be interested to know that I was until recently a sceptic on it's value when having clubs made up but that has changed. I recommended that a friend who was struggling with his driver to go and see Simon at Precision and see what thoughts/recommendations came from it. After a fitting session Simon thought that rather than try to upsell my friend (10 h'cap) into a new driver/exotic (read good and expensive!) shaft combo he would be better served by keeping his present R7 425 but having it SST Pured and Spine aligned. This was done with a 24 hour turn around and cost about £35. The next week we played together his drives were consistently longer, more accurate, better sounding and with a superior trajectory too. Given that one of my drivers was exactly the same specification-R7 425 10.5 degree Re-Ax 65 Stiff-I wanted to try the club as well. Bottom line it was exceptional and a utterly different club to the standard one and something well worth considering before chopping and changing between standard drivers. I felt that was a good example of an astute recommendation and one that wasn't borne of a need to take the money/opportunity to upsell the customer.
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 Gareth
Yes you are correct in that the price quoted by precision includes SST puring. However it is wrong to say this is a cost that can be taken out as at Precision golf I was informed they would not fit the clubs without performing SST puring. In my veiw SST puring is a total con. I did plenty of research on this but my main reason for coming to this conclusion is that nobody could give me an answer to the question "what is the difference between SST puring and spine aligning a steel shaft" There is one difference of course - price. SST puring is a licensed system which is very expensive to buy the licence. It claims to align the shaft the same way so the imperfections in every shaft face the same way in each club. Fine for poor quality graphite, but in steel the weak, heavy or imperfect line is ALWAYS the spine (where the steel is joined) As an engineer I beleive it can be no other way. So therefor if you spine align a steel shaft you acheive exactly the same as SST puring a steel shaft. As the clubfitter I used (Jason at Silvermere) did this at no exra cost when fitting the clubs I saved the money on SST puring. Incidentally he offered to send them off to get them SST pured for £10 per club if I "wanted to throw away £80". The guys at precision golf demonstrated the impurities of a shaft by taking a driver with a aldila NV shaft and fixing the grip then twanging the shaft. Sure enough in a short time the clubhead was not moving back and forth but round in circles. However these shafts (aldila NV) are renowned for serious imperfections, so I asked him to try it with my Ping G5 / Fujikura speeder shaft. Guess what - perfect, and it was fitted without SST puring of any discription. In my veiw you buy a good shaft it does not need puring.
As for the iron heads - yes they were brand new Miura heads, imported for Japan (www.lastagolf.com) I paid $919 + about $70 shipping. Package was so small I did not get charged for customs. They are Miura MB5002 blades. These are identical to the European / USA variant of tournament blades but with a hard chrome finish and more discreet graphics, never seen another set like them.
At the end of the day some people will think that SST puring is worth it and some won't. I made my decision based of what I know about metal and not what a stranger who has a vested interest in promoting a product tells me. I could not afford to spend the best part of £1500 on a set of irons so I found a way of doing it for almost half the price and am very pleased with the results. I am not knocking anyone who does though as it is far easier than the way I did it.
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Interesting reading $919 + $70 for shipping is a great result, I had a look on the website and it says $9999 (I assume this is a mistake though), I love my tournament blades they are fantastic, I didn’t pay £1500 for them though (paid £1100 from custom golf studio, good setup with Trackman). I may be wrong but I think the Japanese model have a slightly different grind on, but for that sort of saving I would it wouldn’t have affected my game.
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 As an aside Precision golf seem to recommend NSPRO 1050's a lot don't they!
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 Mhtm, what is your point? I'm intrigued.
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 It's a fairly unusual shaft yet if you look at earlier posts seems to get recommended by them quite a lot. Why are they pushing this particular shaft? If it was the DG S300 I could understand it - nothing sinister just unusual that's all.
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I wasn't recommended that shaft, they gave me a list of about 7 shafts that would benefit me, ranging from DGs through to Project X, I went for the projects and have not regretted tyhe decision one bit. At the end of the day they are very good at what they do, try and get an appointment in the very near future....
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 I think theu are good at getting the clubs that are right for you (in my experience) but as mentioned earlier they are way to expensive for seliing the clubs/shafts and fitting.
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 ...When we select a shaft for specific characteristic for either woods or irons it is how these shafts are prepared, cut and installed that determines the resultant performance. If another clubmaker uses the same components without taking into consideration our build specification (details of which always remain at Precision Golf), then the results can be dramatically different.
However, we would welcome the opportunity to see the work you have had carried out elsewhere and see if we can rectify the situation.
James Davey
Director
So you hold back the full club specifications? Thus forcing the client to go with you for the shafts/ heads and preventing them from going elsewhere? I admire your honesty but it's just put me right of calling you tomorrow for a booking.
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 I would be interested to know how Precision Golf are doing in the current economic climate, given their high fitting fees (high when you consider most of their rivals are now offering free fittings).
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I was in recently and had a new shaft fitted to a new driver, guys still busy and as helpful as ever. Nimbleblade
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 if they don't freely give you the results they can charge what they like for heads / shafts.
Beware
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Ren I may be able to clarify... I was provided with full details of their recommendations, I was given a list of shafts etc that would suit my swing speed, launch angle etc, the one thing I have found very useful is that they hold all details of the fitting on their computer, which means that I am able to arrange a suitable time to drop my clubs off, go back a couple of days later to collect and the lofts and lies have been altered......no need for me to go through the whole adjustment tests again. When I collected my clubs after building they spent a couple of hours setting them up, getting the lie spot on, these different measurements were then placed onto their system......I believe this is what James meant when he said 'details of which always remain at Precision Golf.' Nimbleblade
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Must be really helpful to hit Pro V1's into a net.
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Welleye They ask you which ball you use and then you hit those. Oh and its not just a net. They use a trackman launch monitor - which is a doplar radar producing several signal transmissions. It is a system favoured by many tour pros and is popular with many top golfing organisations - which probably wouldn't give it time of day if it were a load of SH*TE. I went there several days ago a learnt a lot, I am new to this shaft stuff as I come from an era where you predominately "play with the game you have" not buy a shaft, head etc .. then blame the equipment for your lack of skill. I tried a few shafts and Simon started narrowing it down, I changed a few things in my swing (trackman picked these up and confirmed my intentions etc.. ), and settled on something that is nice and repeatable and the shaft and head combo was set from that. He also made me think about my approach to driving, which was a "tad" old fashioned. We didn't look at the 3 wood, there was no need I am happy with my current club it does everything I ask of it. All my other clubs were measured at the time and there were a few differences but nothing hugely abnormal, but did confirm a few feelings that I had. For example I bought my irons 3 to 9 irons with the intention of buying a bladed wedge, so I researched my lofts and then bought a Cleveland (which isn't forged .. so not bladed) net result is this is very close to my 9I in end distance and this was something I felt out on the practice range and on course. It was made more clear on a basic loft measurement - not all that is said in the tech spec is true!! The end result of my session with Precision Golf was an order for a driver which I will collect this coming Tuesday ... I am really looking forward to hitting it !! As for costs, like previous posters have stated, you pay for the service you get, I am happy with the service I got and don't feel that the cost was extorniate - is it not a waste of money buying something from a discount store that doesn't work for you and then having to trade it in at a loss and then buying another so called bargain?? I am also certain that if I have any issues I can go back to Simon and James and look to rectify them - but firstly I will look at myself and what I am doing wrong afterall I am the variable at the end of the club.
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 "Ren
I may be able to clarify...
I was provided with full details of their recommendations, I was given a list of shafts etc that would suit my swing speed, launch angle etc, the one thing I have found very useful is that they hold all details of the fitting on their computer, which means that I am able to arrange a suitable time to drop my clubs off, go back a couple of days later to collect and the lofts and lies have been altered......no need for me to go through the whole adjustment tests again."
was all this done just using the computer readings, or was the actual flight of the ball used as a factor? Monitor readings and club specs are almost pointless without factoring what is actually happening to the ball. Not totally menaingless, but a high spin rate could be an indication of the angle of attack, not the club itself. This is why I I've only ever used a pro who has not interest in selling me anything to gte advice, only as part of a swing lesson.
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