"Chop them up and feed them to the piggies !!"

No, sorry, in this instance using vandal's bodies to fatten swine is not nearly severe enough.

Lingchi  is the only penalty which fits the crime.

Would certainly deter the little b*st*rds from recidivism.

(Note to Josh Moreton - remember hyperbole ?)

I played Sandy Lodge (Herts) the other week and my companions, all members, noticed that many of the brass tee signs had been nicked overnight.

Public humiliation the best remedy. Take a leaf out of this guy's book! Joe Arpaio

Ben D

Joe Arpaio ? Only in America ! Saying that I think he has a lot right in what he is doing.

TO be perfectly honest guys I think the only way to deal with these vandals is to identify who they are, where they live and then give them a good beating. Making sure they know you know who they are and where they live.

We have a small vandal problem on our course. A few local lads come on the course, which in itself isn't a problem, but one or two of them are hitting wedges off the green. This obviously leaves big scrapes across the greens.

Employing a local private "security firm" should do the trick but this can obviously become expensive.

I play at the Delapre from time to time, and without sounding harsh they almost invite trouble, they allow any old scrotes on the course, there was a 5 ball zooming round in 3 buggies drinking beer the other week!  All wearing tracksuits and shouting.

The only way to deal with them is to get security guards or CCTV then send someone round to have a quiet word.  Even if the police catch them they will just get 5 hours community service or something, it's a shame but this country is going to pot.

Our greens have been attacked for fun, bunker rakes smashed, flags stolen, balls nicked off the fairway during the holidays..........................................

I suggest Waterboarding, yes Waterboard them for 3 months, then lets see them do it again. If that fails drum the bast*rds into the army for a year, give em bit of discipline! Might even make scum like that a worth while member of the community.

Seriously it's a pointless situation, they can't be touched and they know it, they'll vandalise whatevers to hand be it cars, golf courses, anything. Whats the maximum penalty? Commumity service? Do they bother to even show up for that? Who knows, nobodys told, there's never any reports in the local rag, once this so called justice system has served its penalty its burried.

what the hell bob. give them golf lessons? why reward them for a crime. make them repair the damge they did.

if someson vandels somthing they should fix it 

Its awful news, saw it in the local paper, ive never been to collingtree as its posh lol, but Delapre as Richard said is maybe far too relaxed, I like the idea of it not being stuffy etc, but it does attract the tracksuit brigade, just cant understand what goes through these kids heads, like everyone has said they know they can do whatever they like with no punishment. Bring in boot camps run by ex military, have them up at 5am sweeping up with toothbrushes, a shower consists of buckets of cold water being dispatched over them etc, get them young & im sure the reoffending rate would drop with them not wanting to go through it again.

Crime starts somewhere, usually with vandalism and the penalty is a slapped wrist. I have never understood the 'first offence' mentality - the first offence is the worst offence as it is the one where the perp has made that conscious decision to break the law.

Vandalism, or any first offence - a custodial sentence.

You also have to watch out for people with a grudge or motive - at my old course a local mill owner was hell bent on getting a hole closed because he reckons balls were hitting his property - there may have been the odd one  but it meant a really powerful off target by a mile hit to do so - he blew it all out of proportion and we always paid for any damage that he claimed for when proven. We shortened the hole and erected a huge metal fence  to make it nigh on impossible to hit his delapidated premises.

Didn't stop the b*stard paying a little scroat to come and pour diesel oil all over the green - took months and months to recover. 

And kentish I agree to some part but I know that whenever I come on a fresh divot or pm I always repair as I'm sure you do and many others so at least we have a chance of repairing the damage - vandalism is in a different league altogether. 

Like Jim Hacker says we get all the trouble on our course during the school holidays very very rarely do we have any problems outside of these times.

Short time ago we where having lots of problems, as the police" can't do anything untill they are caught  in the act"............However this bunch of idiots posted all of their antics on youtube which was found by one of our members and given to the police.

Since then touch wood not a bit of trouble. might be worth typing in your course's name into youtube you never know.  

Bunkerboy

I thought that even the plonker you described could have spelled JOHN THOMAS correctly,the dickhead!!

My middle son is a golfer and a CPSO (Community Police Support Officer). Now he has no powers of arrest but very soon he will be joining the Metroplitan Police and firmly intends to arrest anyone and anything which makes a wrong move in damaging anything on ANY golf course where he plays. When he is a fully-fledged policeman he intends to call in any golfing colleagues to watch out for trouble from thugs like JT,catch the b+-"ers and frogmarch them down to the nearest nick! If the thugs happen to stumble and fall on the way the police will all be terribly contrite

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I don't feel these mindless idiots' any worse than those who play a course (member or not) and don't replaced divot's or repair their pitchmarks. All leave damage that takes time and money to rectify and spoils everyone elses enjoyment.

Hello, Earth to Mars!

How can you even compare someone who doesn't repair a pitchmark to someone who rides a motorbike on a green or pours diesel on it to kill the grass?

I actually think this issue should be given very little or no publicity in fear of creating copy cats. 

Last summer the local yoof decided to hold a bonfire party on our ninth green, the results were devastating and due to poor action by our old greenkeeper have not yet recovered.  Fortunately signs for a full recovery under a new greenkeeper are not far away.

We do struggle with feral kids.  Two weeks ago a small band were asked to leave the area by one of the greenkeeping staff, the response after lots of swearing and gesturing, they proceed to wade through the nearest bunker, stamp across the green and out through another bunker.

The common consensus is to leave them and hope they do as little damage as possible, challenge them and it only encourages further transgressions.  That seems to be working for now but I suspect it will only lead the scum to bolder acts.

The police are totally not interested.