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'As a general rule, the harder the ball, the more vibration off the clubface and the less you pay for its services. It will go far, but go hard and it’s a nightmare to chip and putt.'


Posted: 29 September 2005
by Bob Warters


Donnay Pro One golf balls

Golf balls can become a minefield of information. While manufacturers bombard us with hyped up specifications about core, velocity and aerodynamics, our playing partners tell us their favourite brand is the best thing since ‘a power fade’ became the new ‘sliced!’

I’ve tried to brush away the jargon and get to the nub of the subject. Hopefully Golfmagic visitors will now be able to speak with more authority when talking balls.

What you pay

Golf balls can cost you a small fortune - upto around £12 for a sleeve of three as used by the pros - or can cost you nothing, if you can find them in the long grass, under a boundary hedge or retrieve them from a water hazard.

Most of us will shell out £1 to £2 for a ball or even less if we’re not too fussy and pick and mix from the Lake balls basket in the pro shop or buy them in packs of 15 or 18.

What you pay is what you can afford to lose. If you’re guaranteed to keep it on the fairway and pretty straight, you can afford pay a little extra for a good quality ball that will keep spin to a minimum off the driver and therefore fly further, yet fizz to a stop with a lob wedge from 50 yards out.

It’s also nice if it feels soft off the putter face and drops in the hole with regularity from longer distances.


Cut-away of a ball

As a general rule, the harder the ball, the more vibration off the clubface and the less you pay for its services. It will go far, but go hard and it’s a nightmare to chip and putt.

Pro balls

It used to be the case that professional golfers always used to use the soft cover balls that spin and suck on the greens. Pros were also able to work their magic with straight-faced clubs round trees with a fade or draw at will.

Not any more. Speaking to former US Masters champion and 2006 Ryder Cup captain Ian Woosnam recently he’s still getting used to the modern ball.

Without going into too much detail about the core and cover of a ball, it’s suffice to say that pro balls have the harder consistency of a cheaper club golfer ball to enable top players to blast them further. However they are also easier to spin and control around the green, chiefly because of the thinner yet still resilient covers stretched over them reacting with modern cores.


Lee Westwood examines the Wilson True ball

Unfortunately for some players like Woosnam, whose key skill was being able to a) hit the ball a long way with persimmon-headed clubs and b) create upto four yards of draw through the air, the modern ball goes further and straighter. It can make even the average driver look good and the good drivers, out of this world.

Flight characteristics

This is mostly down to the dimple pattern and aerodynamics. Thousands of man (and woman) hours are spent in front of a computer working out just how many dimples you can put on a spherical golf ball without losing performance.

I’ve seen balls fired mechanically from a robot striking machine that dive less than 100 yards straight left like a duck hook, because they lacked sufficient dimples.

Others will soar skywards because they had too many or weren’t configured correctly.


This Top Flite ball claims to be both long and soft

The tendency in modern balls is to make them to create a high launch angle from a straight-faced driver in ideal conditions, yet have a certain degree of penetration in the wind. Modern balls also deviate less in flight, so are harder to use for a player who likes to shape shots.

Durability

The pro doesn’t need a ball to last – though there is a story, as yet unsubstantiated, that Sandy Lyle, once used for a whole tournament, one of balls Bernhard Langer cast aside after a couple holes!

He or she hits it pretty straight but also pretty hard and fast and when using the deep grooves in their wedges from tight lies in the fairway or from bunkers, a ball can quickly get a little worse for wear.

Shards of plastic will shave off the surface and reduce the ball’s effectiveness, not to mention the chances of it getting out of shape under powerful, explosive impact with a clubhead.


Aerodynamics are vital

What’s the point of making it last when a manufacturer on the range is even prepared to pay you to use and endorse their product with an unlimited supply.

It’s only the likes of you and I that demand durability. Sure we’ll lose a handful every month but we expect a ball to last at least two or more rounds, especially if its one of those Top Flites, Molitors or Pinnacles where the protection is painted on a little thicker.

Where to get the best deals

Our best advice is to shop around the stores and websites. There are so many balls out there, we’re spoiled for choice and as Golfmagic members have often told us, some of the original packs and brand models from two to three years back, still stand the test of time.

Why so many balls?

You have to realise that leading brands have to answer to share-holders who demand constant investment in research and development as well as worldwide marketing activity to keep products in the public eye.


Callaway’s big Bertha Blue ball

That’s why there’s always a fast-turnover in products – not just balls – but clubs, shoes, bags and clothing – so the brand can be seen to be keeping up with and ahead of its rivals.

The Dow Jones, Nikkei and FTSE 100 index should be investing in grass roots golf as well as encouraging golf club innovation.

Sell by dates

Golf balls don’t really have a sell by date – not enough for the average golfer to detect anyway – such is their high quality craftsmanship and packaging.

Most of our commercial partners have excellent deals where you can often buy a year’s supply of good quality balls for under £50.

Which ball suits you?

As I’ve explained it’s mostly down to personal preference and brand snobbishness.


A sleeve of balls can cost upto £12

You’ll pay more for a top of the range Titleist, Maxfli, Nike, Callaway or Srixon but even for single figure golfers, a Pinnacle Exception or Top-Flite XL are perfectly acceptable to maintain your skill standards.

How courses can dictate the right ball

Much depends on the course you play most regularly in finding a ball most suitable for you.

Common sense dictates that if the greens are small and well protected you need more control from your approaches, so a performance ball that imparts more spin is more appropriate.

If you play on one of the wide-open, treeless course we find on the edge of the Fens, a distance ball would probably be the one to choose, especially if the greens are large, too.


Maxfli’s A10 – still one of the best two years after launch

There’s a compromise, of course – a ball that flies far and spins when you want it, might fit a lush parkland course with well-protected greens or a seaside links.

Compare two balls in one round

As we’ve said before, if you’re unsure, ask your pro to select a hard and a soft ball from his stock and test one against the other’s performance for nine holes. You’ll either be convinced by one or totally confused!

With balls…as with most things in life – you pay’s your money and takes your choice.

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Golf balls...it's a minefield out there! What do you use and what influenced you to use a particular model or brand? - your mates, your mum or dad, your coach, an advertisement, a TV close-up? We're talking balls here and we want the truth! ED
Posted: 29/09/2005 09:13

In the beginning I used lake balls, which were a diverse bunch of good and bad balls, but ultimately cheap because I lost so many.

After tuition and improvement I am currently using the Maxfli Noodle Rotini, which are soft and relatively long, with a nice feel around the green. Price is a major factor as I am not consistent and good enough to buy Titleist ProV1's or premium balls at that price range.
Posted: 29/09/2005 09:25

I have tried a few balls this year in an attempt to find one that suits me.

I found the Prov 1 and Black Max very similar and they are quality golf balls

I found that Srixon balls just fall appart after extended use but are probably the easiest to control.

I decided to try the Wilson Px3 and Tx4 earlier this year due to the fact that I found the True Velocity ball to be a good performer in the winter.

Whilst the Tx4 was softer and did spin a bit more it was a bit like a Pro V without the durability.

I have now found the best ball for me and ticks all the right boxes for perfomance is the Px3 it is Long, it can be controlled well with shorter Irons, it putts well and it has superb durability.

I think it is a personal choice really and a ball that suits one does not suit another.
Posted: 29/09/2005 09:50

I was a huge fan of the Maxfli A10 - sadly no longer available. When I was fitted for my driver by Titleist they advised that the ProV1x was best suited to my swing speed and launch trajectory so I bought a few dozen when last in the US. Since then I've trialled the new Maxfli Blackmax and rate it very highly, I'll be switching to the Blackmax once my supply of ProV1x's is exhausted. I like to use the same make of ball all the time for consistency of my short game so I usually give away my "found" balls though these days I'm finding more and more ProV1's!
Posted: 29/09/2005 09:58

I've allways had a penchant for Maxfli balls from the old Revolutions and A10's.

I had a brief (very) flirtation with a dozen ProV1's but after a disastrous 9 holes which saw me lose 7 of them and the next round saw me lose 4 more I decided that somehow the ProV1's were not for me at £40 a dozen.

Played for a couple of years using NXT's which I thought were a good midrange ball but now use the Maxfli BlackMax...found a good reliable eBay supplier (last dozen cost me about £30 incl pp) and I'm very happy with them.

Found a Maxfli Noodle the otherday and played a few practice holes with it...liked it quite a bit...could be a good winter ball...any thoughts from anyone regarding the Noodles? (and dont say that you prefer Chicken flavoured over Beef!!!)
Posted: 29/09/2005 10:12

I found a Top Flite XL 2000 a few weeks ago and thought it was great. Pity snobbery prevents me from buying more...
Have been using Srixon Soft Feel this summer - two doz free with a magazine subscription - and while they feel nice and putt well, they don't zip off the club so great.
Posted: 29/09/2005 10:16

The old proV1x is the ball I've found best and have a little hoard which I use solely for comps, lost 3 over the 2 rounds at Greetham. For practice I use the Maxfli Noodle and and in winter I find the XL3000 'superspin' seems to work very well in temperatures below 6*, whereas the old proV1x is definitely not a cold weather ball. Hopefully I can eke out my old proV1x until a similar ball comes on the market.
Posted: 29/09/2005 10:18

What a load of balls, I use nike pond balls due to financial restrictions, I have found a difference in the size of these balls to others I have tried, has anyone else noticed the different sizes and are they legit or are they supposed to be that size.
Posted: 29/09/2005 10:27

I hit upon the Srixon AD333's which I liked a lot and I bought them until I was donated a bag of 100 mixed lake balls early this year.

Recently, both my putting and driving have gone appreciably downhill and while the driving problem is technical (see the thread in instruction if you'd care to help!) the putting problem was resolved almost instantly by using a softer ball and sticking to it.

I hadn't realised how different the performance of balls was, not only in terms of feel around the green but also in terms of trajectory and distance.

I bought a pack of refurbished ProV1's recently - do these work as well as the new ones?
Posted: 29/09/2005 10:29

I prefer my balls soft.. ooh err. Tried pretty much everything at one time or another, used to have the Strata Professional then A10, then moved onto the Hogan Apex Tour or V1.
Use callway tour black in winter.

Think it's a rip off to pay £10 for a sleeve of 3 or £30 for 12 !!
Would love to know exactly how much they cost to make. Can't see it costs Titleist much more to make an NXT ball than a V1.

Which is why I buy lake balls, I can afford the premium brands at cheaper price.
Posted: 29/09/2005 10:50

I used to play with a mixture of balls, but thought that, in order to gain a modicum of consistency I had better start playing with one type. So, I purchased a box of prov1s and have stuck to them all through this summer. I found that at first my game suffered a little, even though I was striking the ball well, due to the slightly increased yardage I was getting, but once used to it I find it long and forgiving, and great to work with around the green. Others that I've used and considered ggod include the Srixon AD333, the NXT and the maxfli noodle (Nick Davis - this is a very good ball IMHO, and I too am considering playing this through the winter).


Posted: 29/09/2005 11:04

The course I usually play is a nightmare for losing balls so I usually play with Dunlop DDH's or Slazenger balls that I pick up on cheap deals.

I think I'll pick up a batch of lake balls and see if I can tell much of a difference using those.
Posted: 29/09/2005 11:06

I play with ProV1 most of the time but when I'm short of money I buy NxTs. Occasionally I buy Titleist Solos. I keep meaning to buy balls on internet but feel I should support my local pro.
When I'm good I'll play with the same ball all the time.
Posted: 29/09/2005 11:54

At the rate I lose them but bearing in mind my brand delusions, Maxfli Distance XS Soft at £14 for 18 in JJB is my weapon of choice...
Posted: 29/09/2005 12:08

When I first started it was whatever I could find, but now I seem to receive alot of free balls from various companies. When I have bought new, its been based on price and a known label.
Posted: 29/09/2005 12:46

maybe it's just me, but I never buy balls. Being a member of a club you know where to look for lost balls and I usually pick up one or two ProV1's whilst looking either for my own or a playing partners. I find more than I lose and can't remember the last time I paid for a ball.

Guess it helps if you play a course with penal rough and lots of visitors like me.
Posted: 29/09/2005 13:27

JB - If I was a member of your gaff I'd know where to look an'all! Let me guess, right off the tee at Himalaya 1 for starters?

Four black dots arranged like compass points around the main logo if your conscience kicks in, LOL...
Posted: 29/09/2005 14:03

Only play with one make even when just having a knock Titleist PRO V1 have tried the X a couple of times but prefer the normal one.

There is a definate difference between PRO V and say a NXT and I feel this difference is enough to affect my putting or chipping because you do get used to the feel both off the driver face and in my short game.

As for why I use PRO V's I suppose I believe the hype and it must be the most played ball on tour for a reason.
Posted: 29/09/2005 14:07

I am wary of the pro1v as my driver swing speed is below 100mph hence always using NXT tours. I've just got a dozen NXT's for a VERY low price so will try them, but I may get some PRO v1's as they are only twenty odd quid a dozen here
Posted: 29/09/2005 15:37

Marco, I'll keep an eye out. Actually, all down the left on the 1st of Himalayas is good for Pro V1s.

Had a 76 gross sunday, including a treble bogey, best round so far (playing off 10).
Posted: 29/09/2005 16:15

I use Precept U-Tri Tours and the Laddie ball.

The Laddie isn't as soft as the U-Tri, but it still feels nice around the greens. However, it doesn't spin so much, making it good for people who hit a draw/cut as it doesn't eccentuate it at all. Great ball off the tee I've found, and the most durable ball I've ever used.

The U-Tri goes a little further [for me], feels better, spins just the right amount[although you can really zip it if you need to], and has been descriped by a top golf mag as 'the cheap mans Pro V1'. I can see the similarities, and at just £21-25 for a dozen, I'm not complaining!


Posted: 29/09/2005 16:23

I'm currently using NXT tour. These suit my game with good all round distance/spin and durability. If I find a proV1 then I'll play with that until it gets lost again.

Used to play with Wilson Staff 'pro-spin' which were excellent and really suited my game. They don't make them any more but will be trying the new balls soon.
Posted: 29/09/2005 17:01

I'v been useing HX Hots for the past few months (I've since tried most of the Callaway range, but I still like these the best).

Before the Hots, I played with pretty much anything, and I have noticed much more consistency in my short game and putting since staring to use the same ball consistently.

If I could only find a ball that swerved 100yrds left off the tee I'd be happy as it would turn my slice (with the driver) in to a nice straight shot.
Posted: 29/09/2005 17:10

like the old stratas tour ultimate/straight/professional/balata dont know why but just like em
Posted: 29/09/2005 17:25

callaway HX hot/big bertha blue; Nike one gold or pro V1
Posted: 29/09/2005 17:37

Like to use Callaway Big Bertha when I'm the ball well and straight - which isn't very often.
Posted: 29/09/2005 18:06

The first set of balls I've bought are Dunlop Deep Distance. The reason I've bought these were 1) they were cheap and 2) the Dunlop 'D' can be used to line-up putts :)
Posted: 29/09/2005 18:18


SBL
Used the NXT (not the tour) for a good long while and thought that it was an excellent ball. Tried both versions of the Pro-V1 but didn't really get on with them, I always played better with the NXT. The last couple of months I've used HX hot and really rate them. I'm a high ball striker so the "drop and stop" ability is not really needed as height does it for me. I've found that the HX appears to be a little more resistant to cross winds than the NXT so I'll stick with this for the moment.
Posted: 29/09/2005 18:43

Cheap and Colourful.

You need them that way at my stage of the game. It's unreal how much harder a white ball is to find.

Exia orange balls, £4-something for twelve.
Posted: 29/09/2005 19:43

i compared these at the practice ground the other day.

prov1
prov1x
nxt
nxt tour
precept u-tri tour.

i used five of each. there was quite a stronge left to right cross wind. i hit wedges, six irons and then drives.

i have a swing speed of about 87 with a six iron - i think that equates to 108 with a driver, although i'm not sure about this. i hit my irons with a slight draw, bad shot a pull hook. my drives are erratic with, again, a bad shot being a hook but the occasional high pushes to the right.

it was difficult to tell spin rate and the like with a wedge as i was hitting off a matt onto an upslope and it had been raining earlier in the day so the ground was wet. but the v1 and the v1x seemed to go further than the others.

with a six iron the v1x dealt with the wind much better, in fact the wind didnt seem to have much of an effect on he flight. it went further than the others. the prov1 seemed to get caught itn eh wind and any tendency to go left to right int he swing was exagerated. the nxt went straight but had a baloony trajectory and the nxt tour seemed to have the worst of both worlds. te u-tri went a little high but didnt seem ot get too badly blown around and had an average-ish distance.

with the driver the u-tri was the best. i have always tended to blast pro v1s all over the place and this was the case, they hooked or sliced and also as they had a high trajectory caught the wind. the 1vx had a lower and straighter tajectory but not the ditance of the u-tru or 01v. the nxt was a bit harsh, but went pretty straight and far. the nxt tour agin seemed to fall btween two stools - not far and not straight. the u-tri went noticeably further than any of the other balls, the trajectory was high but still straight in the wind and it felt really good of the driver.

for me i would say the u-tri was the best all-round ball. it went pretty straight, really far had a good trajectory and felt good of the club. it didnt go very far from the irons but then the driver distance makes up for that. the 01vx was really good in the wind, especailly from the irons and it had a great flight, but it lost a little from the driver - maybe i dont swin the club fast enough and did notice of you dont catch it flush with the irons it isnt forgiving. the 01v spins too much sideways for me from the driver. it does go far and it feels a lot softerand i am sur its great around the greens but its too wayward off my driver for me. the nxt does what is says on the tin - hard straight and far, but little feel. the nxt tour seemed to have the worst of all worlds for me, average at everything, good at nothing. typical, seeing as i just bought a couple of dozen of them

all this was done the other day and it wasnt so cold, but i know that balls behave differently in the cold, so i'll probably play the u-tri until it gets nippier and then go to an nxt or something cheaper when i run out of them.

and if you're wondering why i'm wasting so much time on something as pointless as this i am afraid i have no answer for you.
Posted: 29/09/2005 22:48

and maybe i might have read through for spellign and grammar before i hit submint
Posted: 29/09/2005 22:51

Tin Pot - EUREKA, son. I never thought of using a coloured ball to try and reduce my losses - just not that bright I guess. Big ups, mate.
Posted: 30/09/2005 08:05

I use the ball which i find it easiet to putt with, afterall i play more shots with the putter (and on the putting green than i do off the fairway/tee in a round.

The ball i use softish, its a Dunlop Reveleation feel... each to thier own.

I do recommend NOT getting a ball that flies miles but is hard to putt with, do yourself a favour and settle to be 10 yards back on the fairway... the shots you will save on the greens whilst putting will be far more wothwhile, i guarentee that.
Posted: 30/09/2005 08:42

Smooth, I think that's very sound logic.
Posted: 30/09/2005 10:46


Taz
I agree - its all about feel, the reason I have been faithful to Maxfli for the last 2/3 years. Having said that the ball also has to cost less than 20 quid a dozen to find their way into my bag.

At present Maxfli A10 or M3 Tour LT (great around the greens)- superb competition balls

Pinnacle Exception (fantastic all rounder) - general & winter play - Just used some of the pro shop credit won, to buy a doz. for 17 quid.
Posted: 01/10/2005 18:55

Al, i remember i tried the Exceptions early in the winter (around January time) and i just couldnt get anything out of the ball, i know i had only been playing golf for about 2-3 months at that time but i was short on distance and got nothing out the ball, it was like i could only run the ball at the pin and that was all... no stop or feel.

How does the ball react for you?

The gold distance just seemed like a better ball to me, it was certainly longer... i havnt a Pinnacle since.
Posted: 01/10/2005 19:32

I started using Pro V1's in the states and loved them, flew straighter and farther than anything else and putted well.

The NXT tour's I had been using felt average in comparison despite the fact they are supposed to be better for my swing speed.

The NXT was a horror and I can't believe it's the same price as the tour.
Posted: 02/10/2005 11:19

Have switched from PRO Vs to pinnacle exceptions and am impressed. Easier to control and just as responsive around the greens. Good price too.
Posted: 02/10/2005 20:10

Have just tried the Bridgestone Golf B330 Tour and found them much staighter than my usual ProV1's off the driver and not too bad with the rest of my game
Posted: 03/10/2005 09:02

Maxfli Noodle end of story.
Lomg off the tee, soft feel,good to putt with.great for mid to high handicap
Posted: 09/10/2005 20:52

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