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TaylorMade r7 Quad driver

'I was sceptical about a driver where you could switch different weighted nuts about in the head to alter the flight and launch angles'


Posted: 16 November 2004
by Bob Warters

TaylorMade r7 Quad driver
Contact:www.taylormadegolf.com
Technology:TLC technology delivers six sets of launch conditions to promote six trajectories. Deep faced 400cc titanium clubhead, super-thin wall and inverted cone technology for longer drives. Four TLC cartridges: two 2-gram and two 10-gram.
Price: £449


TaylorMade r7 Quad driver

I just had to see what all the fuss was about. The TaylorMade r7 Quad had been launched in June in a hail of publicity but I still hadn’t managed to get my hands on one.

Eventually it arrived – with apologies from the manufacturers for the delay and a book of instructions.

I was sceptical about a driver where you could switch different weighted nuts about in the head to alter the flight and launch angles but prepared to be patient to see the results.

After all Justin Rose, Ian Poulter, Darren Clarke, Sergio Garcia, Retief Goosen and Paul McGinley, are using identical technology to get the most out of their swings and take full advantage of changing course conditions.

As a ‘power fader’ – some of my pals might describe my ball flight as more of a ‘ low, controlled slice’ – I get the ball round efficiently but I’m losing distance and saw the r7 as an opportunity to develop a trajectory which might give me the extra yards I’ve hankered after.


Exploded illustration of r7 Quad

Using the card disk supplied with the club I dialled in my preferred ball flight (‘high neutral’) and screwed the nuts into the sole as demanded.

It was reasonably successful and the direction of my driving was straightened though without too much improvement in height. In my next round I looked for medium height with draw spin even though in 30 years playing this game ‘ I don’t do draws’. This might be a unique experience.

The heavier TLC cartridges were positioned in the heel and the lighter ones in the toe and I set off with renewed enthusiasm.

Again it was moderately successful and delivered a couple of thundering high and penetrating draws, but scared me too with a handful of ugly pulls and duck hooks to the left.

Golfmagic members Angelo Esposito from London and John Palandri from Perth Australia have already given glowing reports of the r7, with Angelo commenting on it ‘clever engineering that really works.’

"It enabled me to change from a sometimes troublesome strong fade to neutral ball flight, allowing a natural draw ball flight which can be easliy changed to a gently fade when needed - Awesome club."

Adds John: "This is by far the best driver I have hit in a long time. User definition of shot pattern is fantastic." But both agree you have to have a stable, consistent swing to make the most out of the technology."

The Golfmagic Verdict
Rating: 8/10
Summary: The r7 certainly enabled me to change ball flight that had been ingrained for years and I got reasonably good results striking the ball off the fairway (my party piece). Hopefully TaylorMade will extend my loan of the club to let me experiment further. I’m also planning to attach strips of lead tape in different positions to the sole of my current favoured driver to see if I can obtain similar results.

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I recently borrowed a R7 from a friend of mine who could not get on with this club(My previous club was R580) It was originally set up for a draw, I was fading badly at the time and thought this would help. Can you believe it did, straight down the fairway every time? Then I made the mistake of buying it and I went to pieces (I'am sure we have all done that at sometime). So in desperation I changed the club to be natural and now hit the fairway in regulation around 85% and hardly ever in the extra long stuff. Has lowered my handicap by four shorts in this short period of time. What a great club
Posted: 21/12/2004 18:09

I hosently can't see what all the fuss is about,golfers have been adding weight to drivers for years using lead tape.Taylormade use clever marketing to ram this so called new technology down our throats.
What happens on par five's or long par 4's when you hit a straight drive with your R7 then slice or hook your second shot with a fairway wood or iron?
You still have the same swing with your other clubs.
If someone really wants a R7 i suggested to wait 6-8 months when you can pick one up for half price,just after TM bring out somethimg better!!!
Posted: 21/12/2004 19:10


Sie
I agree with Steven on this i`m afraid.

If a golfer slices,hooks,fades,draws or whatever then there is a reason why.If you want to cut out a particular bad shot then surely a swing fix would be more beneficial that a driver that does it for you.

It must be so so tempting if you are frustrated to rush out and buy a club like this but you are still left with a swing that caused the problem in the first place.Imagine how many lessons you could get for the price of this driver and be a much better all round golfer at the end of it ?


Posted: 21/12/2004 21:26

The whole point of the R7 is not to fix a bad swing. Its about optimising ball flight and trajectory.

Its the best driver on the market by some distance. Nothing i have tried comes near to it and you want the best you have to pay for it
Posted: 21/12/2004 22:49

personly i think it encourages golfers not to learn to swing correctly
Posted: 22/12/2004 03:49

Agree with Steven, Sie & Jon. I'm sure the R7 is a quality club, but it strikes me as a bit gimmicky (and too expensive!), and there's mo club that can fix a swing fault. Sie's right - the money would be better invested in lessons.
Posted: 22/12/2004 07:36

Nick H, you are the voice of reason on this thread.

TM doesn't market the R7 as a driver fix all unlike some other main names (e.g. "step up to the Sweet Zone!") its marketed as a driver that can be used by capable golfers to change their natural flight pattern if they so choose, highlighted by its popularity on the tour.

Personally I'm not good enough to get the benefits of this driver (and I do not own one), in a similar way that I know that blades would kill me in the forgiveness stakes with my swing and my GBB irons are a club I am capable of getting good scores with.

If I buy new Mizuno blades because the "forged feel, powerful flight and fantastic looks" advertising sold me on them, is it Mizuno's fault my swing is naff and I cannot use them with any consistency at my ability level? - Hummm.....No.

I've watched my local pro use his TM R7 on the range and change the high-low, draw-fade settings to get a different shape of shot and all I can say is if you have the repeatable swing then this could be a great driver option for you, one of many on the market at the moment.

Posted: 22/12/2004 07:59

well said Garry.I think the other guys who have posted on this thread are missing the point of the R7
Posted: 22/12/2004 08:15

Not at all, gents. I fully understand the "benefits" of the R7. But there are people out there buying this club on the grounds that "it'll fix my slice / hook". Whether by design, or not, TM are reaping the financial benefit. Does their marketing strongly highlight that this is a club for a better player looking to vary their ball flight? I don't think so.
Posted: 22/12/2004 09:20


Sie
I don`t think the point is being missed at all.Its a fact that it is being snapped up by people who are looking to shake off their bad tee shots by adjusting the club accordingly.I know this based on knowledge i have from somebody i know who sells them !

Another fact is that you can have a faulty swing and without changing your swing at all this driver can straighten you,still leaving you with a faulty swing.To some golfers that is the holy grail.

I am not convinced its the best driver out there by a long way.I very very nearly went for one last summer but decided it was a waste of money to buy one to have it set up neutral so i went for a R580xd and having tested one do not find the R7 better by a long way at all.

I accept better golfers also buy this club but they are good rnough to use it to optimise ball flight and trajectory as Nick said and i don`t doubt its benefit for the better golfer.

My money is still on it being used by people wanting to eliminate a shot from their game as opposed to people optimising ball flights though.


Posted: 22/12/2004 09:52

Hmm, I can see the benefits of having one (I haven't, as am nowhere consistent enough to benefit. Have not even hit one)

Couple of points to note though...

1) Well aware that the ADDITION of lead tape can affect the ball flight however the key word here is ADDITION of weight, ie making the club heavier, affecting swing weight etc etc etc.

The TM is clever in that is gives the ability to REDISTRIBUTE existing weight, which does not affect overall swing weight, and no bits of lead tape to look ungihtly / fall off.

2) When it was launched in....... guessing here, summer 05, £499.

Six months later my local pro is knocking them out at £259.

Whether there are any proven benfits to Joe Average the club golfer remains to be seen. My guessing is its a lot to do with confidence and the placebo effect, however from a marketing point of view 10/10 and has done wonders for the bottom line of TM.

Wonder whats in store for 2005?




Posted: 22/12/2004 10:29


Sie
I would love to see an R7 putter !!!!

Keep my same flawed stroke but watch em roll in !
Posted: 22/12/2004 10:32

well i draw the ball off the peg. I have bought an R7 having borrowed one for a round and gaining 30 yards.

I can still cut it, i can still hit a high draw or low neutral. The weighting just gives a different feel. It really doesnt mean every time you step up it will go where it is supposed to.

However it is a great club in its own right, i had a ERC fusion b4 and its just better than that. I also had a speeder put in and the difference is immense.

I used tp put lead tape on, i was copying the attached tour pro more than anything but its not the same, the weight on an R7 is in the right place and attached correctly.
Posted: 22/12/2004 12:14

mcalan - TM state that the club works best with a grooved swing.
Sorry they are not promising any quick fix.


Posted: 22/12/2004 12:15

yea i agree that TM promoted it as a club that will enhance a grooved swing, however your not telling me that TM aimed this club at the 10 % of club golfers who are in aces catchment .no TM new exactly who would buy this club the rest of us . it was a very cynical explotation of a golfers weakness. just another big clubmaker explotting the high handicapper for there hard erned pennies
Posted: 22/12/2004 13:29

Yep, it doesn't take much research to read that the R7 is for the more accomplished golfer. Why do people think that a club can fix a slice/fade etc anyway? I suppose hope is the is more the case than think. As for all the complaints about TM bringing new gear out every 6 months that I hear and read so regularly, surely this is a good thing. Everywhere technology is moving on so why not in golf gear. If you can make something better do it I say! Does nayone really buy golf clubs as an investment? I know I don't.
Posted: 22/12/2004 13:36

Well there are always differing opinions.

I'm afraid there must be a load of daft people out there if thay are snapping up the TM 'R7' to cure a errant driver shot like a slice or hook. All the info on the web site and in the magazine reviews has at length stated that this is a re-distrbution of weight design through using weighted plugs in the club head to effect a minor change on the flight pattern and as such is much more likely to be of use to better players with repeatable swings. I've not read anywhere an article that says - buy the R7 its great and can cure all your slices or hooks.

Most driver designs in reality are intended to cure a type of bad shot, by using open or closed faces and internal weighting options.

What's so wrong with offering the ability to change weighting options in their driver to the golfer? If you buy it without trying it or purchase after only listening to club gossip rather than using first hand experience and sound judgement then more fool you.
Posted: 22/12/2004 15:00

Sie,
the R7 putter doesn't exist but the Macgregor Vfoil GT also can also be customised with additional weights... sold separately. Check it out:
http://www.macgregorgolf.com/products/product_display.aspx?pid=43

Actually there's also a preview of their new Mactec driver on the home page, and surprise-surprise, it also has extra weights strategically positionned, but it's not clear whether these are fixed or can be customised
Posted: 22/12/2004 15:19

well said again Garry. If people buy it as they think it will fix a bad swing then more fool them. TM certainly doesnt state that it will!

Like Garry said, most retail drivers are heel weighted and have a face angle to help us handicappers so they dont exactly encourage proper technique!
Posted: 22/12/2004 16:38


dmg
totally agree with nick and garry.

look at the 2 most popular clubs on the forum - the taylormade rescue and the cobra 440 - both have extreme heel weighting and are 2 degree closed...
Posted: 22/12/2004 17:02

Yep DMG. The Cobra's are so closed they basically have around 14 degrees of effective loft so its just a big 3 wood
Posted: 22/12/2004 17:05

My reason for saying that I dont want the R& is because it does not perform as well for me as my R540. I consider myself a good driver but I could not produce a consistent shape of shot with the R7.

However I do strongly believe that drivers are very personal things abd they shoul always be well tried before buying one.

I also believe that many poor drivers of the ball are that because they the wrong equipment in their hands.
Posted: 23/12/2004 01:42

Interesting. My natural shot is a draw. So if a lot of these modern drivers are heel weighted and closed faced, no wonder I hook the bl**dy things. I tried a Kasco driver last year, and it was horribly closed at addressed. I got fed up adjusting my grip to make the stupid thing sit square.
Posted: 23/12/2004 08:02

on the subject of R7 putters there is this Rossa VT Monza if you like mallets!

http://www.tourspecgolf.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=10


Posted: 23/12/2004 17:00

Putting lead tape on a driver -I tried this with some success,is far less effective than the weight re-distribution design built into the R7. The problem with lead tape, is it changes club swing weight also there are probs then with too much shaft flex etc and inconsistency.

If you have a grooved repeatable but FLAWED swing - eg a fade/slice as I did and set this club up with max draw bias (inc 12g/14g weights - YOU WILL HIT the ball straighter more consistently and thats a FACT.

If you spray the ball all over the place with little control or predicatbility then spend money on lessons.

Quite a few better drivers of teh ball than me have tried mine and ALL have either bought one now or intend to do so.
Posted: 29/12/2004 01:00

Just pured, I take it from the weights you have the TP and was wondering whether you have compared it to the regular version.
I am looking to get a conforming driver as I currently have the Max.

Posted: 01/01/2005 08:59

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